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07/26/2018

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Matthew Derengowski

This article was very informative on the positive sides of eating Vegetarian meat. The article talks about fake meats that can be enjoyed by someone who likes meats and a vegetarian. I would say I agree with the statement and the message that it has. The point that was brought up and that I hear asked very frequent is "First, the lack of understanding of the protein needs of vegetarians, who in fact can’t “just eat vegetables,”" This is constantly something i hear and people never really know about sources of protein like these fake meats. I feel like to prove why the fake meat is better you should have gathered more facts about the fake meats affect versus real meat. I understand it was catered towards people who are celebrating the 4th of July but it would be nice to know what other fake meats there are besides hot dogs and burgers. Over all it was good and made me think a lot more about eating fake meat.

Kellie Evans

While I support the idea of Emily Dreyfuss' article on supporting the consumers of imitation meat, she does not backup her stance with much evidence at all. A lot of the details seem to be missing. Like why does she even care about this topic, since she expresses her avid love for meat? She affirms right in her introduction that one of the reasons the 4th of July is her favorite holiday is because "it's built for eating meat." And then goes on to state that hot dogs are her favorite food. There are many reasons why a vegetarian diet is beneficial, and she could've used some of the stronger reasons to persuade her audience to be more accepting of such individuals. I'm sure the vegetarian community appreciates the support of a meat-eater since they catch a ton of backlash for their dieting choices, but it has to leave them with some questions as well.

Patrick Huegel

In this article i found it to be very informative and educational on the topic of fake meats. It was very helpful in learning how to understand the normality of fake meat. It starts of first by saying how absurd it is not knowing or having full knowledge of the product, "No. No. Nope. There is so much wrong with that statement. First, the lack of understanding of the protein needs of vegetarians, who in fact can’t “just eat vegetables,” actually"(Dreyfuss). It continues to go on and explain why the protein benefits are the same as none meat. "But meat isn’t necessary for survival, and not everyone shares the love. With the advent of agriculture, meat-light and vegetable-based diets sprang up around the world"(Dreyfuss). I personally found this article to be great and informative and has changed my view on fake meats. I might even go out and try one this weekend.

Yegsik Amirkhanyan

The article like many states the various aspects of hot dog meat specifically and how despite its inorganic and unreal ingredients Americans find it to be the most standardized and enjoyable meal on any occasion. However, when reading her article it does become quite confusing as to why she would put together this piece of work debating both for and against meat when she clearly states her love for it. Other aspects such as factual evidence should have been included in her copy demonstrating how fake meat is created, its health risks, and on one side of the debate, why it is not good for you. On the other point, it should also include facts about the case. Her being a former meat-lover it may come to both a surprise and help that she is sticking up for vegetarianism and will benefit the readers and the vegetarians reading.

yunhuwang

Supertex protein is a kind of vegetable protein product with muscle fiber texture which is processed by mixing, organizing and drying with plant protein as the main raw material. The protein content is 50-90%. Because Supertex protein will be fluffy after rehydration, it is like semi-cooked lean pork, so some people call it "drawing protein", "plant protein meat", "simulated meat" and so on. Foods that completely or partially replace lean pork or beef with Supertex protein have almost no difference in taste compared with ordinary meat products and Supertex protein has the high protein content, low-fat content and no cholesterol. Supertex protein is more cost-effective than lean pork and beef, so Supertex protein is widely accepted by meat and vegetarian manufacturers.

Shantel Earle

Although I may agree with Emily Dreyfuss and the decision of fake meat, it seems as though there is key information missing from the article. Dreyfuss discusses the hardship and the misunderstandings of the use of the Vegan hot dog,specifically on fourth of July, but does not include any statistics in support of her position. It has become common today to dismiss the idea of vegan hot dog or "fake meat" in general, because of the common idea that it is unnatural to eat "meat" that does not come from something that produces meat. On the other hand, people can easily obtain nutrients even if they are vegan or vegetarian. I feel as though my only main concern is with the use of "fake meat" is how much healthier it is compared to its counterpart?

TARIQ Charlie Brown JONES

I agree that vegans are being misunderstood. I feel that the grill needs something vegetarian, and I feel that vegetarians are not getting the respect they deserved. However, like Emily Dreyfuss stated, that you can't just eat vegetables, you have to eat protein also. People understand that vegetables lower your risk of types of cancer, but I argue that protein helps you build muscle. So taken into consideration, most vegans needs attention too if they're going out for a BBQ cookout.

carlee sichel

The writer, Emily Dreyfuss makes a great point when she argues that vegans want a place at the barbeque too where they can enjoy their food. Humans don't need meat, we need protein to survive and this article shows that there are alternatives to meat that people can enjoy with others. I think if you can find an alternative to eating meat that doesn't cause suffering to an animal, why wouldn't you do that?

Bernadette Minni

Dreyfuss’s did not go the traditional route when arguing the need for alternative meat products. She didn’t preach about nutrition or ethics. What she did was give us is an argument for inclusion, everyone needs protein and vegetarian meat products actually do taste good. My interest was sparked by the mention of the Fourth of July and all the foods that are normally served along with this holiday. More recently, vegetarian food consumption has been on the rise, however, there are plenty of people who do not give these people or products the deference they deserve. Emily suggests that it is natural for a vegetarian to want to eat easily identifiable foods that her friends and family eat; vegans should not have to feel ashamed for eating vegan hot dogs and veggie burgers. I agree with the Dreyfuss because of my twenty years of food service experience and now selling restaurants food, confirms it. Plant based proteins are on the rise as evidenced by the addition of vegetarian options on most menus, pizza crust and rice being made with cauliflower, and the American palates favorites: hot dogs and hamburgers being served with vegetarian ingredients.
As for Ms. Dreyfuss’s sources it’s difficult to say they are one-hundred percent reliable since the sources were not cited at the bottom of her article and Gary Beauchamp’s credentials had to be added after the article was written. Further, she mentions Catesby Holmes the writer being a vegetarian her whole life and briefly mentions how she was treated by her grandmother but I do not know who Catesby Holmes is. Likewise, she references Greg Sams as the creator of the vegetable burger and my experience tells me this is correct but without citations, I can see how someone may want to argue that point.
Overall this was a very thoughtful article and I do believe people should give other people’s preferences some reverence. If we are striving to work with emotional intelligence, why would we want to make fun of vegetarians eating items that look like meat? Wouldn’t it be better to try their products and a variety of them, so that we may learn to expand the world we are living in? You may even like some of their products, I know I do, and so do many people who identify as “flexitarians.” This may be a new term for some people but according to Merriam-Webster, flexitarians are vegetarians who sometimes eat meat or fish. Having a variety of plant based proteins is especially important to the millennial generation who dine out often. Therefore, the next time you invite your vegetarian friend to your barbeque and they show up with veggie burgers and dogs, give it shot, you may find a new food you enjoy.

“Flexitarians.” Merriam-Webster, Merriam-Webster, www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/flexitarians.

Bernadette Minni
September 30, 2018

Patty R.

“In Defense of the Vegan Hot Dog” reads no more to me than a written rant by someone who was severely dissatisfied that veggie dogs were absent at last years barbeque. Dreyfuss’ biggest objection is not that people avoid eating these vegan hot dogs, but the overall lack of acceptance of fake meat as an option for consumption. Perhaps taking it a bit too personally, Dreyfuss’ reaction to the character on Queer Eye seems a bit over the top For one, it’s a television program, produced to stimulate thought, conversation, and, dare I say, some drama. People are always going to have their own preferences and fake meat just may not be among those preferences. Dreyfuss argues that meat-eaters should give fake meat a chance, but then continues on to describe how the fake meat neither looks nor tastes like the real thing. Perhaps people have tried the fake meat and just really did not enjoy it. To each his own, I say.

Dreyfuss goes on to discuss how eating meat can lead to “an increased risk of everything from high blood pressure to cancer”. Although I agree that eating certain red or significantly fatty meats over a long period of time can definitely contribute to developing these health problems, there are still other protein options available. Dreyfuss fails to remember chicken, eggs, or fish as alternatives to fatty, red meat. Fish, especially salmon, contains important vitamins and nutrients that we may be unable to obtain from any other proteins, especially vegetable based proteins. Although these vegetable based proteins are a useful option, they will still not provide certain nutrients that are needed by the human body. On the flipside to Dreyfuss’ argument, I wonder if a diet consisting of only vegetable based proteins can in itself be detrimental to a person’s nutrition.

Later in the article, Dreyfuss tries to defend her point on taste and preference by using three children as test subjects. Serving them three vegetarian dogs and two meat dogs, she believes that observing the preference of the children will give some indication that there is difficulty differentiating between the dogs, furthering her argument that all the hot dogs basically taste the same. On one hand, Dreyfuss does a good job by providing a variety of both hot dog options. However, where Dreyfuss fails is that she did not serve all the hot dogs in the same way to each child, even covering the one hot dog in “all the ketchup, all of it”. Despite this being a very informal experiment, how does Dreyfuss expect to achieve any consistency with her results if the test subjects were not given consistent variables to begin with? Oh, and then there is the fact that her test subject are children. Children I know, although stubborn at times, seem to eat just about anything if they are in the mood. Performing this experiment with adults would have given her much more accurate results, but also probably would not have supported her point.

Haley Cook

I found this article to be surprisingly informative and not really what I thought it would be about. I was expecting it to perhaps be about health or environmental benefits of vegetarianism and why so many like fake-meat products as a real meat alternative. It gave a different perspective on why vegetarians would want to eat meat substitutes, not because as commonly believed that it would taste like meat but because it takes the form of meat products so that at commonly meat-centered events such as the fourth of july, vegetarians can feel connected to the rest of the meat-eating group.

Rylie

As a vegetarian, I completely agree with Dreyfuss. Unless I specifically mention my dietary restrictions, after attending summer barbecues or even regular get togethers, I'm left hungry, and dissatisfied at the lack of vegetarian options. I think vegan and vegetarian "meats" should be more widely available, as Dreyfuss puts it, "on the grill". Since becoming vegetarian, I've gotten friends and family members hooked on non meat alternatives, and I think almost everyone who eats meat would agree that having faux meat products more widely available doesn't do any harm.

Daniel

I found the article to be quite informative. I had expected it to be a rant from an upset vegetarian who has a vendetta against people that eat meat. Instead the position of vegan based meat substitutes is brought to the forefront. Many people do have a bias against plant based meat substitutes and will never try it. They wouldn't try it as it is perceived as an inferior food. I would try vegetarian meat after reading the article. However, I disagree with the authors choice on not feeding her child real meat. It seems like she doesn't even humor the idea of letting him choose between and the idea is construed as experimenting on a child. Children should be able to consume real meat. Can we really say at this point that meat does not have nutritional benefits if eaten in certain amounts? Is there sufficient research to back this up?

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