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02/25/2015

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Hannasmusic.blogspot.com

I agree that college is still important and can be worth it, but I think it depends on the specific person. Some people are happier going straight into work instead of going to college, and others want to go through college to try to earn a high paying job later on in life. It also depends on what a person wants to do in life because some professions require a college education, but others do not.

Sarahejustison.blogspot.com

I agree that college is necessary for some people to further their careers, but I also think that it depends on the person. Some people will be more prosperous in life by just going straight into the work field. But I do not think it's fair that people with a college degree and just graduated are chosen for jobs over people who have been working in the field for years. In some instances they can be chosen over the people who have been in the field for a while, but just because you do not have a college degree does not mean you do not know what you are doing. The statistics are also from a college, so they also would want to show that college is the most important factor in getting a job so they readers can pay to go to college.

Glenmanio.blogspot.com

I would say that I agree with Gillian White because although both essays/articles have flaws, Ungar seems to bring forth a bigger bias through his essay. Since Ungar is the president of a liberal arts college, he is most likely trying to persuade more students to consider liberal arts colleges. Aside from Ungar's bias, I overall agree more with White because she clearly emphasizes how college graduates (over time) are doing better than people with just high school diplomas. This is a point I agree with because though a person may have worked for many years in a company, the company would most likely choose someone right out of college with a degree in the desired field. It's due to the fact that the new worker would bring in more innovation and ideas instead of doing things the old fashioned way. Though I do agree with White more, I do still agree with the point made by Ungar. There are too many misconceptions about liberal arts school but it isn't for everyone. Ungar may have a bias being the president of a liberal arts college, but at the same time it may just be that he has a lot of experience with seeing all the students come in and out of his school. Both sides present great points but I think White hits the point straightforward better.

Madsmcc.blogspot.com

I believe that a college education depends on the person. Yes, I think college in worth it in the sense that it helps you to figure out who you are and what you want to do with your life, but if you don't feel like it fits you, then it'll just be a waste of time and money. Some people think that a college education is worth it and they want it to earn more money, however, some people are happy with just going out and doing something they love. College or no college, both have their own benefits and worth, it just depends on what you want and what makes you happy.

Ashlogue.blogspot.com

I agree with Ungar's essay more because he understands the struggles with getting a liberal arts degree. White claims that getting a college degree in general will help increase your annual earnings, but Ungar disagrees. Ungar acknowledges that a liberal arts degree may not help you in life. He understands that even though having a degree is good, you many not get hired and therefore almost useless if you can't get a job. He claims that degrees such as french and literature may not help you get ahead in life, in a practical sense. Ungar also states that, with the increasing college costs, a liberal arts degree may not get you where you want to be due to limited opportunities in their specific field. However,I think that everyone should do what they love, regardless of job opportunities or potential earnings, if they are happy with themselves and what they are doing, that is all that really matters.

Travsbigblog.blogspot.com

I agree more with White’s reasons for why college is still worth it because she presents her views with less bias than Ungar does. Since Ungar is the president of a liberal arts college all of her views are simply to promote her college so more students will apply. While White is part of Georgetown University her views are still less bias because she is not in charge of any particular academic club so she does not profit from the university profiting. In addition, White offers some key facts through the use of graphs that greatly impact the significance of her findings. I strongly agree with the fact that a recent graduate from college is able to make more money than a recent high school graduate who has a lot of work experience. I feel as though employers look at the time a person spent in college as learning experience. Employers take this into consideration when they hire employees because this learning experience shows a sense of perseverance in a person that employers feel is a necessary trait for people to have.

Jenna Dallal

I completely agree with Gillian White's argument that college still pays off. A college education results in a lower probability of unemployment and an increase in average salary, as argued by White. These two benefits standing alone already pay for the degree. With a higher chance of employment , a graduate is not only more likely to get a job but also more likely to have a higher selection of jobs, therefore increasing the graduate's career satisfaction. One advantage that White does not mention is the fact that a college degree, depending on the job field, could act as an edge that allows for a job applicant to stand out. An employer is clearly going to pick the applicant that spent time and money on getting an education over the applicant that did not.

Jessica Lefkowitz

I completely agree with Margaret Parker. Yes college is a very useful tool, but it does not mean college is the right choice for everyone. College does give the opportunity for an individual to grow not only intellectually, but also as a person. College puts a huge emphasis on white-collar careers, but our nation rides on the skilled professionals in the fields of construction, maintenance, and industrial work. Without these fields there would be no buildings for the white-collared professionals to work in. The fields of skilled professionals do not require a college education. Trade schools offer the individual a better hands on education than college would. There may not always be work for a CEO or an inventor, but a mechanic or plumber are always needed. Their trade is needed in everyday life. In homes, office buildings, or restaurants. The option of going to trade school provides people that may not test well or might have a learning disability an opportunity to succeed in life. While college is a necessary path for people that want to pursue white-collared jobs, it is not the right choice for everyone.

Brandon Sonntag

I would say getting a college education is important because if you go to college and get a degree in a certain field that you feel your going to be good at then it shouldn't be very hard for you to get a job. College is also very important because it can help you find the career you want to go into and greatly increase the choices of what jobs are out there to pick from, where as if you are looking for a job with just a high school diploma there won't be as many jobs to pick from. If you go to college and are able to get a good job that pays good money then you should be set for the rest of your life. Even though it seems like your spending a lot of money for college, it will actually be worth it as long as you find and choose the right path to go. Unless you choose to become a business owner and own your own businesses then college is probably going to be your best way of making a lot of money. Going to college is most likely going to be the most important choice you'll have to make in life because will out it there are very little things you can do to help support yourself in the next stages in life.

Miranda

Like many other college students, when I was growing up my parents, grandparents, and teachers all stressed the importance of college. Year after year, I was bombarded with the question of what I wanted to be when I grew up. Near the end of high school, that question became what college I wanted to attend. Like many of my fellow peers, I did not want to attend college but I did anyway because I was told it was necessary for a successful future. While some individuals preach that attending college pays off, others believe that a college degree is losing worth.

In the article, “Even with Debt, College Still Pays Off”, Gillian B. White discusses that economically a college education is a good investment that will pay off. White cites evidence that suggests that college graduates with a bachelor earn more than high school graduates and are less likely to experience unemployment. Research also states that while unemployment has fluctuated with the economies decline and increase, earning premiums granted to college graduates have stayed either stayed stable or grown. College graduates are also proven to have higher premiums than individuals with seniority who only have a high-school diploma. Overall, the author states that the rewards obtained from a college education, job security, and long-term financial gain, outweigh the cost of expensive tuition.

On the other hand, critics look at the state of the economy and social structure to disprove that college pays off. The most obvious argument is that a college degree will not pay off if the student cannot get a job. In the US, people of all ages and education levels are having problems finding jobs, especially quality ones. In the age of technology and transport, more jobs are being shipped overseas or automated. The economy also affects the number of jobs. The Great Recession in 2007 made many companies downsize and reduce their number of employees. This has forced many educated and experienced individuals to procure low-income, entry- level jobs. This is called underemployment.

In US society, credentialism is another phenomenon that has affected the worth of a degree. Credentialism is when a society over-emphasizes the importance of earning degrees and certificates to determine intelligence, social status, or the ability to do a job. More lower-income and social status jobs are requiring their employees to have a degree. As more and more people earn degrees, having a degree become expected and commonplace. In turn, graduates will receive fewer rewards for their degree. Also, to effectively compete in the labor market, students will need to achieve higher degrees and certification to have an advantage. This is the idea of credential inflation.

While Gillian White may be correct that college pays off now, that might not always be true. College tuition has been on the rise and so has educational attainment. However, the United States still faces a shortage of college graduates so the effects of credentialism and credential inflation are not currently apparent. For many students, a college degree could greatly influence their SES and career attainment.

Dan Cook

I somewhat agree with the view that college is still work it in terms of earning potential and job prospects in today’s market. I think it depends on the degree the student wishes to earn. The study even recognized that earning potential for some degrees yield less than others. Students considering college need to research earning potentials and develop a plan for how they will deal with debt incurred before sailing off into uncharted waters. This debit can become an anchor if careful thought is not put into it. An example of this is one that achieved a degree in journalism, however has been unable to find work in that field. A degree in a specific area does not guarantee you a career in that field. The burden of debt is relative, while the average debt is $25,000 per graduate, the burden to repay is much different for someone making $37,000 per year as opposed to $100,000. Additionally, the writer states “most people can’t afford it” suggest a greater issue. Those needing to increase income potential simply may not have the ability to further placing a segment of society at disadvantage. These issues can only be resolved by institutions finding ways to make degrees more affordable and potential students giving thoughtful consideration to career choices to ensure they only take courses necessary to reduce debt burden.

Sarah Peach

I can agree with White’s main statement which is, college, even with debt still pays off. However, I feel she could have had a better argument with a different template. While most who propose their statement, they usually will state the counterargument first, then state their point with reasoning. She however, stated her views then the counterargument, not ending the article with valid points geared towards her captive audience. Even if she had stated her argument first, then counterargument, I feel she could’ve wrapped up the article with her main point. Instead, she ended the article on a downfall of college, and most of the time when a student who is on the cusp of making the decision as to whether or not college is worth it for them, then ending the article with positive aspects of college could be the make or break decision.

Abdikadir

i agree with Gillian that going to college is worth it even if you accumulate a lot of debt along the way because college gives a higher education. I believe that in today's economy in order for someone to get a stable and well paying job, they must have a four year college degree or beyond. I know that college can be very expensive and a lot of people aren't able to afford. However, those who go to college have better job opportunities. I think college is for everyone but those who go to college are well of it.

Cristina

The title within itself, Even in Debt College Still Pays off, suggests the high success of college graduates. White argues the value college has to one’s future. In her article White says “Though the cost of college is increasing, a variety of empirical evidence suggests that the earnings associated with a bachelor's degree still trump the debt that students incur in most cases.” White points out the statistical fact that people that graduate with a bachelor's degree make more money than those that do not have one. At the end of the article she then contradicts her focus by saying “…college is still worth it. It’s just that most people can’t afford it.” Although her statement is contrasting her main point it, it does support it by explaining why many people don’t graduate from college or even attend. White writes how vital an education is for an economically stable future. Fact is college is expensive, more than anything unaffordable for most. This is why people should strive to do anything it takes to go to college for an education. The economic struggle is worth the stability in the end. That conclusion ultimately explains many people’s choice of community over a four year. Going to college doesn’t have to lead you into debt, but it will guarantee you more secure future.

Nikita Inderjit

In his article, Even With Debt, College Still Pays Off, Gillian White discusses the controversial topic of whether a college education is worth the repercussions, most importantly debt. White argues that a bachelor’s degree is extremely valuable once a student is out of college because of the economic benefits. He includes studies from Georgetown University to support his point with the reports showing the benefits based on unemployment rates and annual earnings. Each report compares the differences between a college graduate and a high school graduate with White analyzing both studies to show how a college degree is more beneficial. He closes his article with studies of recent college graduates and the differences between their earnings compared to high school graduates.
I agree with White’s argument that a bachelor’s degree is extremely valuable compared to only a high school diploma even though most students graduate college with extreme debt. The studies he includes show a stark difference between those who earn a high school diploma and those who also earn a bachelor's degree. I believe that a college degree results in such a higher salary rate and lower unemployment rate because of not only the education received but also the additional skills developed during the college experience such as conversational skills and public speaking. These skills help a college graduate achieve more compared to a high school graduate and prove the benefits of a college degree.

Gary Dewayne Gold

I agree with Gillian White. College does pay off. The statement, "Even with debt, college still pays off" is a very optimistic concept. Most people think of a better living, which is normal thinking before and after college. However, the real key factor is the exercise of challenging yourself to reach higher knowledge or to exert your mind's potential to expand into new enlightenment and intellectual self growth. It's the objective of intellectual growth, independent thinking that evolves from elementary to maturity of intellectual exercising of the mind's potential which demonstrates good thinking, organized thinking, with that qualifications it incorporates better performance that companies look for in our competitive world. Corporations or in general business operators look for the potential of intelligent people to assist with and within the business world which can result in benefits of better living and that's what pays off.

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