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01/03/2018

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Kris Coleman

Mellow and pollard believe that community colleges are very important to the american lifestyle now is because more and more people are taking school less serious and some people are looking at community colleges as a gateway to something good. The information from both presidents is very important because some people you never know why they're there and for some people it was pretty easy and for some it wasn't so easy, and i believe that the information was key because sometimes you need that background. No i don't believe that the authors relied too much on the word "opportunity" and each time it is used it is being linked back to why the community college system is so important in america right now.

D. Permelia

n responding to the debate by Mishel, (2012) "College and Then What". A professor once told me, that a college education would eventually be free and offered just like a kindergarten thru twelfth grade education. This concept would malign the idea of an education not being accessible to everyone. The United States spends roughly $598.5 billion on defense and approximately $141 billion on educating our elementary and secondary children. This year the amount that the government will spend will be even less. The latest figures from the Presidents fiscal year 2018 Budget Fact Sheet, will provide $73 billion less than previous years. With technology advancing at a major pace, I would think that educating citizens should be this nations chief objective.

President's Budget. (2018, January). Fact Sheet: President Trump's FY 2018 Budget. Retrieved

January 16, 2018, from https://www.whitehouse.gov

Hunter Smith

Community colleges are obviously the cheapest type of post secondary education. While some may argue that you get what you pay for, this does not apply to college. You can either buy under armour, or walmart brand. Huge price difference, but same product. Colleges are the same. Also, all colleges are required to meet certain standards, so all colleges operate on the same level. You probably think you are so cool for having a degree from Harvard, but in all honesty you were taught on the same standards as every other college student in America. While it may be cool to go off to some large university, it really is not justifiable unless you have pretty much a full ride.

Matthew Adams

More and more often it is perceived that if someone goes to community college, they are going for the explicit purpose of getting a certification or some technical skill that will come in handy for the intermediate job field. If that is not the case then the other way that the perception would go is that the community college is merely a stepping stone to a more renowned or "prestigious" institution. For these reasons, some may think that there is less weight or value that is carried with traditional degrees such as associates and masters degrees in fields of specific study. For people to take community colleges more seriously, then the attitudes and perceptions of these colleges need an overhaul first.

Crystal Chang

I definitely agree with Mellow and Pollard on their view of community colleges. They both believe that community colleges can help bridge a gap between the poor and wealthy, the uneducated and educated. The problem with universities and private schools is that they are incredibly expensive, often lack diversity, and leave students with crippling debt. Both Mellow and Pollard are living examples of the diversity that one can find in a community college. One of them is white, born and raised in rural upstate New York, while the other is Black, born and raised in Chicago where violence is an everyday occurrence. However, because community college is non-exclusive and affordable, both of them were able to attend and gain an education. A high school diploma is no longer sufficient for Americans. To better secure a bright future, one must attend college. The world is evolving in a manner that makes living a successful life very difficult. It is becoming more and more competitive, with a college diploma often being the minimum requirement for a job. Community colleges are also flexible with student’s schedules, therefore students who need to work can do so. Community colleges also offer financial aid, so that the student’s financial burden can be lessened. They also stated that community colleges also welcome veterans and support them with their special needs. Veterans need special support for their emotional needs and financial needs, and community college can offer both. Most community colleges have health centers and assistance for the mentally and physically unstable. However, it is not only veterans that community colleges accommodate for. They also accommodate for all physical and mentally disabled individuals. Mellow and Pollard both explain that community colleges celebrate diversity and share one thing in common: opportunity. People who attend community college are given the opportunity to leave their poverty-ridden cities to live out a life of opportunity, success, and happiness.

Dylan Aguirre

This article was quite interesting to me as I did in fact agree with the authors. It made me open up my eyes and realize more pros about community colleges. I never really thought about how community colleges actually gather people from different factors and it does in a way put together a divided America. There is a bridge being made between different backgrounds and economic statuses which can also help create new connections filled with diversity. A majority of people tend to see community colleges as schools for the "unaccepted" or the "rejects", as some of them were rejected from other colleges and universities. It seems like this stigma comes to show how poorly community colleges are viewed as. I can actually see how community colleges have something that other colleges and universities do not, and that is diversity. If one thinks about it, those who are unable to afford state colleges, universities, and/or private schools but still want to continue their education go to community colleges. The international students who come but are unable to apply to colleges because of issues with credits could, and still do, apply to community colleges. In addition, even the older adults enroll in community colleges, so even age factors into the diversity that community colleges have. I have also noticed many people who do not take advantage of community colleges when they should not be. I see many not even attempt to try in what they do. They do not focus on doing the best they can because they give up too fast. I think a way to give hope and, in a way,, a wakeup call to those who are not trying in community college would be to remind them that they are lucky they are able to start fresh with a community filled with diversity in order to build new connections.

Kaylee Biesemeier

Community colleges are so vital to the United states because of the main factor on how much cheaper it is than going to a university. I definitely agree with these authors, they really put community college into a perspective for me; especially since I attend a community college. Mellow and Pollard go to explain how community colleges are "affordable and accessible", and I couldn't agree more. I think the information that they provided from them being president's of community colleges is very important for this article. They are actually a part of a community college and they know the ins and outs. Personally I do not think that Mellow and Pollard relied too much on the word "opportunity." It went well with the text and was paired nicely with their text. The authors state, We welcome the opportunity, finally, to close the yawning chasm of inequality that has stunted the potential of millions of Americans and led them to achieve considerably less than their true promise." This is why "opportunity" fit nicely. I think the national leaders should fund more students, even though there is a drastic money difference between community colleges and universities; I still think community colleges should still get the benefits that go along with universities.

Clay

It is a shame that economic divides create educational divides among the populous and community colleges could help to bridge this gap. But I also believe there should be more emphasis on education in government with funding, because while these colleges are helpful, government influence is powerful and effective if utilized in the right manner.

Mary Cate

Community colleges I feel like are very under rated and over looked. I feel like some people look down on people in a "tech" school, but they are making a very smart choose that is still giving them a college degree. Instead of going into huge debt and impossible classes, community college honestly seems like the most reliable route. If people become more accepting of community colleges I feel like the gap will close tremendously.

Tiffany Nutter

Although people seem to look down on community colleges and think they are for the less fortunate and your degree won't be as good, many could disagree! there is plenty of people who go to a 2 year college before a 4 year and succeed just the same! I believe the college I have been attending brings in a diverse community around me, which I'm not use to, but enjoy. the two woman in this article come from completely different backgrounds, but yet still come together on the same thoughts as far as community colleges. most people don't do research on the community colleges especially if there is a university around them that they plan to attend. this article gives a little insight on the options for community colleges.

niyah morton

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Mellow and Pollard mentioning their backgrounds were very important in this argument. It really helped make the argument. Them being the presidents of a community college and having backgrounds that most people that go to community colleges have was just great information to give to the argument. Considering that community colleges and people that go to them are typically looked down on, Them stating that shows that its possible to make it through and be successful going to a community college. I don't think their argument would be more effective without that information, because real life examples always boost an argument.

Victor John

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Hericberto Zarate Cruz

The argument that mellow and pollard make regarding community colleges is that they are a way to bring everyone together, for example middle class white Americans, lower class minorities and veterans. Community colleges according to mellow and pollard, “have none of the trappings of exclusivity yet all the academic prowess required to engage in the thoughtful consensus- building necessary to knit back together a divided America” (mellow and pollard, 2017). Community colleges are vital to the United States because they allow everyone an equal opportunity to affordable education. Something that makes them exceptional is that they welcome everyone, their prices are affordable; thus, allowing people to get educated and pursue the “American dream” without being is a massive dept. in my opinion the authors make a valid argument that community colleges bring America closer together because they demonstrated how community college enables society to give opportunities to individuals who would be forgotten and set aside at other educational institutes. I agree that community colleges are crucial to American society, and in my opinion, are becoming the ladder to escape poverty for many minority groups.

Kendia Louis

I disagree with Hunter Smith because I don't think that all colleges are the same. Why? because many of the graduates from high-ranked colleges get better jobs compared to people who attended public colleges. So, therefore attending a high-rank college does make difference. Realistically, having "Havard graduate" in your resume is more likely to get you a job than having some other unknown public college. The education level in pristine colleges is much better.

isabelle brill

The Blog and the discussions following behind it are discussing about community college and how more students are deciding to attend them over universities. They also talk about how cheap community college is. I've always believed that attending community college would be better for many people. For example people who don't want to attend a four year college but still want the college degree for a better job. Also for people like me who would much rather spend less money getting prerequisites at a community then transfer to a university. Overall community college I believe is a better and cheaper choice. I also agree with what some of the responses said about lack of diversity at universities while community college has a mix of poor and wealthy and many different ethnic backgrounds. I would suggest people attend a community college over a university and I wish that I did.

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